{"id":12448,"date":"2022-09-22T15:31:47","date_gmt":"2022-09-22T10:01:47","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/bravenewpodcast.com\/?p=12448"},"modified":"2022-09-22T15:31:47","modified_gmt":"2022-09-22T10:01:47","slug":"episode-45-joseph-aoun-on-becoming-robot-proof","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/bravenewpodcast.com\/episodes\/2022\/09\/22\/episode-45-joseph-aoun-on-becoming-robot-proof\/","title":{"rendered":"Episode 45: Joseph Aoun on Becoming Robot-Proof"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"iframe-class\" src=\"https:\/\/html5-player.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/24457422\/height\/90\/width\/640\/theme\/custom\/autonext\/no\/thumbnail\/yes\/autoplay\/no\/preload\/no\/no_addthis\/no\/direction\/backward\/render-playlist\/no\/custom-color\/ff1018\/\" width=\"100%\" height=\"90\" frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"yes\"><span data-mce-type=\"bookmark\" style=\"display: inline-block; width: 0px; overflow: hidden; line-height: 0;\" class=\"mce_SELRES_start\">\ufeff<\/span><span data-mce-type=\"bookmark\" style=\"display: inline-block; 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Joseph Aoun joins\u00a0<span class=\"il\">Vasant<\/span>\u00a0Dhar in episode 45 of Brave New World to discuss the role of education in making humanity robot-proof.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<div><b>Useful resources<\/b>:<br \/>\n1. Joseph Aoun on\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/PresidentAoun?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/twitter.com\/PresidentAoun?ref_src%3Dtwsrc%255Egoogle%257Ctwcamp%255Eserp%257Ctwgr%255Eauthor&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1663877364893000&amp;usg=AOvVaw2hoyZ5ocmk6KH8dDfd-LlQ\">Twitter<\/a>,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/scholar.google.com\/scholar?hl=en&amp;as_sdt=0%2C5&amp;q=joseph+aoun&amp;btnG=\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/scholar.google.com\/scholar?hl%3Den%26as_sdt%3D0%252C5%26q%3Djoseph%2Baoun%26btnG%3D&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1663877364893000&amp;usg=AOvVaw0a6CtGOniFsEm8ufAMgvCQ\">Google Scholar<\/a>\u00a0and\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/president.northeastern.edu\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/president.northeastern.edu\/&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1663877364893000&amp;usg=AOvVaw0owKZ6PCCfKoOY0U_2xFtX\">Northeastern University<\/a>.<br \/>\n2.\u00a0<i><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Robot-Proof-Higher-Education-Artificial-Intelligence-ebook\/dp\/B08BT1CPH4\/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3578N9HM5OPD1&amp;keywords=joseph+aoun&amp;qid=1663788730&amp;sprefix=josepf+ao%2Caps%2C284&amp;sr=8-1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Robot-Proof-Higher-Education-Artificial-Intelligence-ebook\/dp\/B08BT1CPH4\/ref%3Dsr_1_1?crid%3D3578N9HM5OPD1%26keywords%3Djoseph%2Baoun%26qid%3D1663788730%26sprefix%3Djosepf%2Bao%252Caps%252C284%26sr%3D8-1&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1663877364893000&amp;usg=AOvVaw3zJ1WNPNcayPn0THSR2oUw\">Robot-Proof: Higher Education in the Age of Artificial Intelligence<\/a><\/i>\u00a0&#8212; Joseph Aoun.<br \/>\n3.\u00a0<i><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Innovators-Dilemma-Technologies-Management-Innovation-ebook\/dp\/B012BLTM6I\/ref=sr_1_1?crid=W0W1U5X6CPY&amp;keywords=innovator%27s+dilemma&amp;qid=1663788952&amp;sprefix=innovator%27s+dilemma%2Caps%2C342&amp;sr=8-1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Innovators-Dilemma-Technologies-Management-Innovation-ebook\/dp\/B012BLTM6I\/ref%3Dsr_1_1?crid%3DW0W1U5X6CPY%26keywords%3Dinnovator%2527s%2Bdilemma%26qid%3D1663788952%26sprefix%3Dinnovator%2527s%2Bdilemma%252Caps%252C342%26sr%3D8-1&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1663877364893000&amp;usg=AOvVaw3RA0vjC5aXe1g35agCZAZd\">The Innovator&#8217;s Dilemma<\/a><\/i>\u00a0&#8212;\u00a0Clayton Christensen.<br \/>\n4.\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/bravenewpodcast.com\/episodes\/2022\/04\/28\/episode-37-caitlin-zaloom-on-the-anthropology-of-student-debt\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/bravenewpodcast.com\/episodes\/2022\/04\/28\/episode-37-caitlin-zaloom-on-the-anthropology-of-student-debt\/&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1663877364893000&amp;usg=AOvVaw3BYqpO4GDnaInrKSlNdQNU\">Caitlin Zaloom on the Explosion of Student Debt<\/a>\u00a0&#8212; Episode 37 of Brave New World.<br \/>\n5.\u00a0<i><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Indebted-Families-Make-College-Work-ebook\/dp\/B08L9TFNFM\/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2IVDPLIU37NSS&amp;keywords=indebted&amp;qid=1663790201&amp;sprefix=indebted%2Caps%2C334&amp;sr=8-1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Indebted-Families-Make-College-Work-ebook\/dp\/B08L9TFNFM\/ref%3Dsr_1_1?crid%3D2IVDPLIU37NSS%26keywords%3Dindebted%26qid%3D1663790201%26sprefix%3Dindebted%252Caps%252C334%26sr%3D8-1&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1663877364893000&amp;usg=AOvVaw0qOC7RZ_5s2lRR0nnrRdJr\">Indebted: How Families Make College Work at Any Cost<\/a><\/i>\u00a0&#8212; Caitlin Zaloom.<br \/>\n6.\u00a0\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/bravenewpodcast.com\/episodes\/2021\/09\/16\/episode-21-daniel-kahneman-on-how-noise-hampers-judgement\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/bravenewpodcast.com\/episodes\/2021\/09\/16\/episode-21-daniel-kahneman-on-how-noise-hampers-judgement\/&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1663877364893000&amp;usg=AOvVaw1rgITHW3WdnPaEUCrlUapk\">Daniel Kahneman on How Noise Hampers Judgement<\/a>\u00a0&#8212; 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Joseph Aoun joins\u00a0Vasant\u00a0Dhar in episode 45 of Brave New World to discuss the role of education in making humanity robot-proof.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[157],"tags":[202],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/bravenewpodcast.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/12448"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/bravenewpodcast.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/bravenewpodcast.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/bravenewpodcast.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/bravenewpodcast.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=12448"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/bravenewpodcast.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/12448\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":12449,"href":"https:\/\/bravenewpodcast.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/12448\/revisions\/12449"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/bravenewpodcast.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=12448"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/bravenewpodcast.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=12448"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/bravenewpodcast.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=12448"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}