{"id":12573,"date":"2022-10-06T14:03:10","date_gmt":"2022-10-06T08:33:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/bravenewpodcast.com\/?p=12573"},"modified":"2022-10-06T14:03:10","modified_gmt":"2022-10-06T08:33:10","slug":"episode-46-soumitra-datta-on-measuring-innovation","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/bravenewpodcast.com\/episodes\/2022\/10\/06\/episode-46-soumitra-datta-on-measuring-innovation\/","title":{"rendered":"Episode 46: Soumitra Datta on Measuring Innovation"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"iframe-class\" src=\"https:\/\/html5-player.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/24603753\/height\/90\/width\/640\/theme\/custom\/autonext\/no\/thumbnail\/yes\/autoplay\/no\/preload\/no\/no_addthis\/no\/direction\/backward\/render-playlist\/no\/custom-color\/ff1018\/\" width=\"100%\" height=\"90\" frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"yes\"><span data-mce-type=\"bookmark\" style=\"display: inline-block; width: 0px; overflow: hidden; line-height: 0;\" class=\"mce_SELRES_start\">\ufeff<\/span><span data-mce-type=\"bookmark\" style=\"display: inline-block; 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What drives that difference? And hey, what\u00a0<i>is<\/i>\u00a0innovation to begin with? Soumitra Datta joins\u00a0Vasant\u00a0Dhar in episode 46 of Brave New World to share his insights on innovation, and the lessons they hold for us.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<div><b>Useful resources<\/b>:<br \/>\n1. Soumitra Datta on\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/soumitradutta?lang=en\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/twitter.com\/soumitradutta?lang%3Den&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1665131151062000&amp;usg=AOvVaw1VCVm_YJRkHLZFZx239n_R\">Twitter<\/a>,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Soumitra_Dutta\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Soumitra_Dutta&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1665131151062000&amp;usg=AOvVaw29kQJP2vMgADJ1xiVx3As9\">Wikipedia<\/a>\u00a0and\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/sbs.ox.ac.uk\/about-us\/people\/soumitra-dutta\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=http:\/\/sbs.ox.ac.uk\/about-us\/people\/soumitra-dutta&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1665131151062000&amp;usg=AOvVaw3ozue6luq6trNYH9nFS16W\">Sa\u00efd Business School<\/a>.<br \/>\n2.\u00a0\u00a0<i><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Does-Matter-Information-Technology-Competitive-ebook\/dp\/B004OEIQ6I\/ref=sr_1_2?crid=2BTZOJM6N0SCO&amp;keywords=does+IT+matter&amp;qid=1664964308&amp;qu=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjY2IiwicXNhIjoiMS4yNyIsInFzcCI6IjEuMjQifQ%3D%3D&amp;sprefix=does+it+matte%2Caps%2C289&amp;sr=8-2\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Does-Matter-Information-Technology-Competitive-ebook\/dp\/B004OEIQ6I\/ref%3Dsr_1_2?crid%3D2BTZOJM6N0SCO%26keywords%3Ddoes%2BIT%2Bmatter%26qid%3D1664964308%26qu%3DeyJxc2MiOiIxLjY2IiwicXNhIjoiMS4yNyIsInFzcCI6IjEuMjQifQ%253D%253D%26sprefix%3Ddoes%2Bit%2Bmatte%252Caps%252C289%26sr%3D8-2&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1665131151062000&amp;usg=AOvVaw1fA-LXRdlZND9lb5RaAppj\">Does IT Matter?<\/a><\/i>\u00a0&#8212; Nicholas Carr.<br \/>\n3.\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.wipo.int\/edocs\/pubdocs\/en\/wipo_pub_gii_2020_exec.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/www.wipo.int\/edocs\/pubdocs\/en\/wipo_pub_gii_2020_exec.pdf&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1665131151062000&amp;usg=AOvVaw0-_rJcwQAgbXJ9XDBTLm5K\">Global Innovation Index 2020<\/a>\u00a0&#8212; Edited by Soumitra Datta,\u00a0Bruno Lanvin and Sacha Wunsch-Vincent.<br \/>\n4.\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.drishtiias.com\/daily-updates\/daily-news-analysis\/india-innovation-index-2021-niti-aayog\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/www.drishtiias.com\/daily-updates\/daily-news-analysis\/india-innovation-index-2021-niti-aayog&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1665131151062000&amp;usg=AOvVaw2J6gGxuBP4uQNOFEajNv-3\">India Innovation Index 2021<\/a>: NITI Aayog.<br \/>\n5.\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/bravenewpodcast.com\/episodes\/2021\/06\/24\/episode-15-indias-new-export-a-more-egalitarian-internet\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/bravenewpodcast.com\/episodes\/2021\/06\/24\/episode-15-indias-new-export-a-more-egalitarian-internet\/&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1665131151062000&amp;usg=AOvVaw2Jik975u58YaFR7JN86JE1\">Nandan Nilekani on an Egalitarian Internet<\/a>\u00a0&#8212; Episode 15 of Brave New World.<br \/>\n6.\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.wsj.com\/articles\/max-martin-the-hitmaker-poised-to-become-the-biggest-pop-music-producer-of-all-time-11638453600\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/www.wsj.com\/articles\/max-martin-the-hitmaker-poised-to-become-the-biggest-pop-music-producer-of-all-time-11638453600&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1665131151062000&amp;usg=AOvVaw3ch1AMMJVOpHqFk9j06807\">The Swedish Hitmaker Behind Britney Spears, Taylor Swift and the Weeknd<\/a>\u00a0&#8212; Neil Shah in the\u00a0<i>Wall Street Journal<\/i>.<br \/>\n7.\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.edelman.com\/trust\/2022-trust-barometer\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/www.edelman.com\/trust\/2022-trust-barometer&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1665131151062000&amp;usg=AOvVaw23lu5IOQWo0e3g4kpy2U9R\">2022 Edelman Trust Barometer<\/a>.<br \/>\n8.\u00a0<i><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Why-Nations-Fail-Origins-Prosperity-ebook\/dp\/B0058Z4NR8\/ref=sr_1_1?crid=8F7PX5B62DDJ&amp;keywords=why+nations+fail&amp;qid=1664963992&amp;qu=eyJxc2MiOiIyLjQ0IiwicXNhIjoiMi4wOSIsInFzcCI6IjIuMjEifQ%3D%3D&amp;sprefix=why+nations+fai%2Caps%2C261&amp;sr=8-1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Why-Nations-Fail-Origins-Prosperity-ebook\/dp\/B0058Z4NR8\/ref%3Dsr_1_1?crid%3D8F7PX5B62DDJ%26keywords%3Dwhy%2Bnations%2Bfail%26qid%3D1664963992%26qu%3DeyJxc2MiOiIyLjQ0IiwicXNhIjoiMi4wOSIsInFzcCI6IjIuMjEifQ%253D%253D%26sprefix%3Dwhy%2Bnations%2Bfai%252Caps%252C261%26sr%3D8-1&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1665131151062000&amp;usg=AOvVaw1Eyqf-OENRg3-KxIwIO5UK\">Why Nations Fail<\/a><\/i>\u00a0&#8212; Daron Acemoglu and James Robinson.<br \/>\n9.\u00a0<i><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Narrow-Corridor-States-Societies-Liberty-ebook\/dp\/B07MCRLV2K\/ref=sr_1_2?qid=1664964034&amp;refinements=p_27%3ADaron+Acemoglu&amp;s=digital-text&amp;sr=1-2&amp;text=Daron+Acemoglu\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Narrow-Corridor-States-Societies-Liberty-ebook\/dp\/B07MCRLV2K\/ref%3Dsr_1_2?qid%3D1664964034%26refinements%3Dp_27%253ADaron%2BAcemoglu%26s%3Ddigital-text%26sr%3D1-2%26text%3DDaron%2BAcemoglu&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1665131151062000&amp;usg=AOvVaw1fY08SjmOEvTfkaAa2wwzM\">The Narrow Corridor<\/a><\/i>\u00a0&#8212;\u00a0 Daron Acemoglu and James Robinson.<br \/>\n10.\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/bravenewpodcast.com\/episodes\/2021\/08\/19\/episode-19-james-robinson-on-what-makes-a-successful-state\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/bravenewpodcast.com\/episodes\/2021\/08\/19\/episode-19-james-robinson-on-what-makes-a-successful-state\/&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1665131151062000&amp;usg=AOvVaw3BnJUbwb3cu-vyJY3qmCqI\">James Robinson on What Makes a Successful State<\/a>\u00a0&#8212; Episode 19 of Brave New World.<br \/>\n11.\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.wsj.com\/articles\/that-fancy-university-course-it-might-actually-come-from-an-education-company-11657126489\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/www.wsj.com\/articles\/that-fancy-university-course-it-might-actually-come-from-an-education-company-11657126489&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1665131151062000&amp;usg=AOvVaw3zxyKbatlt87aqVWl4HQ8s\">That Fancy University Course? It Might Actually Come From an Education Company<\/a>\u00a0&#8212; Lisa Bannon and Rebecca Smith in the\u00a0<i>Wall Street Journal<\/i>.<br \/>\n12.\u00a0<i><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Innovators-Dilemma-Technologies-Management-Innovation-ebook\/dp\/B012BLTM6I\/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=clayton+christensen&amp;qid=1646233821&amp;sprefix=clayton+%2Caps%2C306&amp;sr=8-2\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Innovators-Dilemma-Technologies-Management-Innovation-ebook\/dp\/B012BLTM6I\/ref%3Dsr_1_2?keywords%3Dclayton%2Bchristensen%26qid%3D1646233821%26sprefix%3Dclayton%2B%252Caps%252C306%26sr%3D8-2&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1665131151062000&amp;usg=AOvVaw1x3EV4NddbzKcSbZ2sQMjy\">The Innovator\u2019s Dilemma<\/a><\/i>\u00a0\u2014 Clayton M Christensen.<br \/>\n13.\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/bravenewpodcast.com\/episodes\/2021\/02\/04\/episode-5-law-and-education-in-our-modern-world\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/bravenewpodcast.com\/episodes\/2021\/02\/04\/episode-5-law-and-education-in-our-modern-world\/&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1665131151062000&amp;usg=AOvVaw3SFBh2g991dvhNEl1dZhml\">Law and Education in Our Modern World<\/a>\u00a0&#8212; Episode 5 of Brave New World (w John Sexton).<br \/>\n14.\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/news.stanford.edu\/pr\/95\/950607Arc5193.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/news.stanford.edu\/pr\/95\/950607Arc5193.html&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1665131151062000&amp;usg=AOvVaw35DErIgfXwKBBpAuijDU5j\">Too much efficiency not good for higher education, March argues<\/a>\u00a0&#8212; Stanford\u00a0University News Service.<br \/>\n15.\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/bravenewpodcast.com\/episodes\/2020\/12\/24\/episode-2-uplift-the-unremarkables\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/bravenewpodcast.com\/episodes\/2020\/12\/24\/episode-2-uplift-the-unremarkables\/&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1665131151062000&amp;usg=AOvVaw0ak8QHZDg1GMHR4Uv0Gyg4\">Uplift the Unremarkables<\/a>\u00a0&#8212; Episode 2 of Brave New World (w Scott Galloway).<\/p>\n<p>Check out\u00a0<b><a href=\"https:\/\/vasantdhar.substack.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/vasantdhar.substack.com\/&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1665131151062000&amp;usg=AOvVaw26rba7lQz4oBCqK1xLBgGY\">Vasant\u00a0Dhar\u2019s newsletter<\/a><\/b>\u00a0on Substack. Subscription is free!<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"shariff\" data-twitter-via=\"vasantdhar\" data-title=\"Episode 46: Soumitra Datta on Measuring Innovation\" data-info-url=\"http:\/\/ct.de\/-2467514\" data-backend-url=\"https:\/\/bravenewpodcast.com\/wp-content\/plugins\/shariff-sharing\/backend\/index.php\" data-temp=\"\/tmp\" data-ttl=\"60\" data-service=\"tl\" data-services='[\"facebook\",\"twitter\",\"linkedin\",\"whatsapp\"]' data-image=\"\" data-url=\"https:\/\/bravenewpodcast.com\/episodes\/2022\/10\/06\/episode-46-soumitra-datta-on-measuring-innovation\/\" data-lang=\"en\" data-theme=\"grey\" data-orientation=\"horizontal\"><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff How can we tell if one country is more innovative than another? What drives that difference? And hey, what\u00a0is\u00a0innovation to begin with? Soumitra Datta joins\u00a0Vasant\u00a0Dhar in episode 46 of Brave New World to share his insights on innovation, and the lessons they hold for us.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[157],"tags":[203],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/bravenewpodcast.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/12573"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/bravenewpodcast.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/bravenewpodcast.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/bravenewpodcast.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/bravenewpodcast.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=12573"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/bravenewpodcast.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/12573\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":12574,"href":"https:\/\/bravenewpodcast.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/12573\/revisions\/12574"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/bravenewpodcast.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=12573"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/bravenewpodcast.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=12573"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/bravenewpodcast.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=12573"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}