{"id":13656,"date":"2022-12-29T19:39:51","date_gmt":"2022-12-29T14:09:51","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/bravenewpodcast.com\/?p=13656"},"modified":"2022-12-29T19:39:51","modified_gmt":"2022-12-29T14:09:51","slug":"episode-52-neeti-bhalla-johnson-on-risk-in-our-modern-world","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/bravenewpodcast.com\/episodes\/2022\/12\/29\/episode-52-neeti-bhalla-johnson-on-risk-in-our-modern-world\/","title":{"rendered":"Episode 52: Neeti Bhalla Johnson on Risk in Our Modern World"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"iframe-class\" src=\"https:\/\/html5-player.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/25455579\/height\/90\/width\/640\/theme\/custom\/autonext\/no\/thumbnail\/yes\/autoplay\/no\/preload\/no\/no_addthis\/no\/direction\/backward\/render-playlist\/no\/custom-color\/ff1018\/\" width=\"100%\" height=\"90\" frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"yes\"><span data-mce-type=\"bookmark\" style=\"display: inline-block; width: 0px; overflow: hidden; 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How do we measure risk in these times of crazy change? Neeti Bhalla Johnson joins Vasant Dhar in episode 52 of Brave New World to share her thoughts on how professionals do it!<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<div><b>Useful resources<\/b>:<br \/>\n1. Neeti Bhalla Johnson on\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/neeti-bhalla-johnson-a54aa782\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/neeti-bhalla-johnson-a54aa782&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1672335393376000&amp;usg=AOvVaw1UNOEshrPEEbBJ4BOn4Hkz\">LinkedIn<\/a>\u00a0and\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.libertymutualgroup.com\/about-lm\/investor-relations\/our-company\/management-team\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/www.libertymutualgroup.com\/about-lm\/investor-relations\/our-company\/management-team&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1672335393376000&amp;usg=AOvVaw2i9Yii89rwRzwq_UhvB6KD\">Liberty Mutual<\/a>.<br \/>\n2.\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/bravenewpodcast.com\/episodes\/2021\/09\/16\/episode-21-daniel-kahneman-on-how-noise-hampers-judgement\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/bravenewpodcast.com\/episodes\/2021\/09\/16\/episode-21-daniel-kahneman-on-how-noise-hampers-judgement\/&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1672335393376000&amp;usg=AOvVaw1o_fZKbMYcYTGzGmr2tMHn\">Daniel Kahneman on How Noise Hampers Judgement<\/a>\u00a0&#8212; Episode 21 of Brave New World.<br \/>\n3.\u00a0<i><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Noise-book-authors-Thinking-Nudge-ebook\/dp\/B08LCZFJZ2\/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=daniel+kahneman&amp;qid=1631695307&amp;sr=8-1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Noise-book-authors-Thinking-Nudge-ebook\/dp\/B08LCZFJZ2\/ref%3Dsr_1_1?keywords%3Ddaniel%2Bkahneman%26qid%3D1631695307%26sr%3D8-1&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1672335393376000&amp;usg=AOvVaw0u_9SBCDX0qdTYVmDFtMJY\">Noise: A Flaw in Human Judgement<\/a><\/i>\u00a0\u2014 Daniel Kahneman, Olivier Sibony and Cass Sunstein.<br \/>\n4.\u00a0<i><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B005MJFA2W\/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_hsch_vapi_tkin_p1_i0\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B005MJFA2W\/ref%3Ddbs_a_def_rwt_hsch_vapi_tkin_p1_i0&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1672335393376000&amp;usg=AOvVaw3Ob9ksBXV4-5rHBfIVh5yz\">Thinking, Fast and Slow<\/a><\/i>\u00a0\u2014 Daniel Kahneman.<br \/>\n5.\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/lareviewofbooks.org\/article\/dissecting-noise\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/lareviewofbooks.org\/article\/dissecting-noise\/&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1672335393376000&amp;usg=AOvVaw1Wqy3IZ2Nld3Ds5SPWNol3\">Dissecting \u201cNoise\u201d<\/a>\u00a0\u2014 Vasant Dhar.<br \/>\n6.\u00a0<i><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Factfulness-Reasons-World-Things-Better-ebook\/dp\/B0756J1LLV\/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1MCBR3AGQ4ZQJ&amp;keywords=factfulness&amp;qid=1672247187&amp;qu=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjg3IiwicXNhIjoiMS40NCIsInFzcCI6IjEuNzIifQ%3D%3D&amp;sprefix=factfulnes%2Caps%2C277&amp;sr=8-1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Factfulness-Reasons-World-Things-Better-ebook\/dp\/B0756J1LLV\/ref%3Dsr_1_1?crid%3D1MCBR3AGQ4ZQJ%26keywords%3Dfactfulness%26qid%3D1672247187%26qu%3DeyJxc2MiOiIxLjg3IiwicXNhIjoiMS40NCIsInFzcCI6IjEuNzIifQ%253D%253D%26sprefix%3Dfactfulnes%252Caps%252C277%26sr%3D8-1&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1672335393376000&amp;usg=AOvVaw0tx4Jz9v0TPhVZGc7yPiu9\">Factfulness<\/a><\/i>\u00a0&#8212; Hans Rosling.<br \/>\n7.\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/bravenewpodcast.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/ourworldindata_wars-long-run-military-civilian-fatalities-from-brecke1.0.png\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/bravenewpodcast.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/ourworldindata_wars-long-run-military-civilian-fatalities-from-brecke1.0.png&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1672335393376000&amp;usg=AOvVaw2qfSKHujc0LJXy46-_4mnt\">Global Deaths in Conflicts Since the Year 1400<\/a>\u00a0&#8212; Chart by Max Roser.<br \/>\n8.\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/ourworldindata.org\/war-and-peace#global-war-deaths-between-1400-and-today-the-size-of-the-bubble-shows-the-percentage-of-world-population-killed-the-hague-centre-for-strategic-studiesref\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/ourworldindata.org\/war-and-peace%23global-war-deaths-between-1400-and-today-the-size-of-the-bubble-shows-the-percentage-of-world-population-killed-the-hague-centre-for-strategic-studiesref&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1672335393376000&amp;usg=AOvVaw1-LJWXdKU0onYGQgQazdlk\">War and Peace<\/a>\u00a0&#8212;\u00a0Max Roser, Joe Hasell, Bastian Herre and Bobbie Macdonald.<br \/>\n8.\u00a0<i><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Destined-War-America-Escape-Thucydidess-ebook\/dp\/B01IAS9FZY\/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1QWNH81U8N3MN&amp;keywords=destined+for+war&amp;qid=1672247880&amp;qu=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjY5IiwicXNhIjoiMS40OSIsInFzcCI6IjEuNTEifQ%3D%3D&amp;sprefix=destined+for+wa%2Caps%2C314&amp;sr=8-1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Destined-War-America-Escape-Thucydidess-ebook\/dp\/B01IAS9FZY\/ref%3Dsr_1_1?crid%3D1QWNH81U8N3MN%26keywords%3Ddestined%2Bfor%2Bwar%26qid%3D1672247880%26qu%3DeyJxc2MiOiIxLjY5IiwicXNhIjoiMS40OSIsInFzcCI6IjEuNTEifQ%253D%253D%26sprefix%3Ddestined%2Bfor%2Bwa%252Caps%252C314%26sr%3D8-1&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1672335393376000&amp;usg=AOvVaw25u1PQ49a4rQqh2jUprPOn\">Destined for War<\/a><\/i>.&#8211; Graham Allison.<br \/>\n9.\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/bravenewpodcast.com\/episodes\/2020\/12\/10\/episode-1-the-technology-wars\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/bravenewpodcast.com\/episodes\/2020\/12\/10\/episode-1-the-technology-wars\/&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1672335393376000&amp;usg=AOvVaw39MiVJaNAyE-k7lS01TpIP\">The Technology Wars<\/a>\u00a0\u2014 Episode 1 of Brave New World (w Arun Sundararajan).<br \/>\n10.\u00a0<i><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Fifth-Risk-Michael-Lewis-ebook\/dp\/B07FFCMSCX\/ref=sr_1_4?crid=8J6TI2WJOL79&amp;keywords=michael+lewis&amp;qid=1672248035&amp;qu=eyJxc2MiOiI1LjIxIiwicXNhIjoiNC44MyIsInFzcCI6IjQuOTEifQ%3D%3D&amp;sprefix=michael+lewi%2Caps%2C302&amp;sr=8-4\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Fifth-Risk-Michael-Lewis-ebook\/dp\/B07FFCMSCX\/ref%3Dsr_1_4?crid%3D8J6TI2WJOL79%26keywords%3Dmichael%2Blewis%26qid%3D1672248035%26qu%3DeyJxc2MiOiI1LjIxIiwicXNhIjoiNC44MyIsInFzcCI6IjQuOTEifQ%253D%253D%26sprefix%3Dmichael%2Blewi%252Caps%252C302%26sr%3D8-4&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1672335393376000&amp;usg=AOvVaw3klZxSXJtTiKaeQl4CF-oP\">The Fifth Risk: Undoing Democracy<\/a><\/i>\u00a0&#8212; 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