{"id":15436,"date":"2023-04-20T16:22:31","date_gmt":"2023-04-20T10:52:31","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/bravenewpodcast.com\/?p=15436"},"modified":"2023-04-20T16:22:31","modified_gmt":"2023-04-20T10:52:31","slug":"episode-60-raphael-milliere-looks-under-the-hood-of-ai","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/bravenewpodcast.com\/episodes\/2023\/04\/20\/episode-60-raphael-milliere-looks-under-the-hood-of-ai\/","title":{"rendered":"Episode 60: Rapha\u00ebl Milli\u00e8re Looks Under the Hood of AI"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"iframe-class\" src=\"https:\/\/html5-player.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/26599494\/height\/90\/width\/640\/theme\/custom\/autonext\/no\/thumbnail\/yes\/autoplay\/no\/preload\/no\/no_addthis\/no\/direction\/backward\/render-playlist\/no\/custom-color\/ff1018\/\" width=\"100%\" height=\"90\" frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"yes\"><span data-mce-type=\"bookmark\" style=\"display: inline-block; width: 0px; overflow: hidden; line-height: 0;\" class=\"mce_SELRES_start\">\ufeff<\/span><span data-mce-type=\"bookmark\" style=\"display: inline-block; 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Rapha\u00ebl Milli\u00e8re joins\u00a0<span class=\"il\">Vasant<\/span>\u00a0Dhar in episode 60 of Brave New World to understand on what&#8217;s going on inside ChatGPT &#8212; and the larger questions that arise from this.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<div><b>Useful resources<\/b>:<br \/>\n1.\u00a0Rapha\u00ebl Milli\u00e8re on\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/scholar.google.com\/citations?user=_2kiRH0AAAAJ&amp;hl=fr\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/scholar.google.com\/citations?user%3D_2kiRH0AAAAJ%26hl%3Dfr&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1682074062672000&amp;usg=AOvVaw1ttuiHi0zfnDNhdt4S4ZAB\">Google Scholar<\/a>,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/raphaelmilliere\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/twitter.com\/raphaelmilliere&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1682074062672000&amp;usg=AOvVaw2bVR2B9dgFLr7e7tKo0L3v\">Twitter<\/a>,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/raphael-milliere\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/raphael-milliere&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1682074062672000&amp;usg=AOvVaw0IiqvB-yGGSUq74-23n6Tv\">LinkedIn<\/a>,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/scienceandsociety.columbia.edu\/directory\/raphael-milliere\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/scienceandsociety.columbia.edu\/directory\/raphael-milliere&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1682074062672000&amp;usg=AOvVaw2JsjKMY_Qb74YeP-eJtcE1\">Columbia University<\/a>\u00a0and\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/raphaelmilliere.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/raphaelmilliere.com\/&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1682074062672000&amp;usg=AOvVaw3Mp06qnz1Aj6MJWIXAD79H\">his own website<\/a>.<br \/>\n2.\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=99nyHju3j2I\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v%3D99nyHju3j2I&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1682074062672000&amp;usg=AOvVaw1VlCxIdokoT87JDyCZCOY1\">How to Talk to (And About) Artificial Intelligence<\/a>\u00a0&#8212;\u00a0Rapha\u00ebl Milli\u00e8re.<br \/>\n3.\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/nautil.us\/moving-beyond-mimicry-in-artificial-intelligence-238504\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/nautil.us\/moving-beyond-mimicry-in-artificial-intelligence-238504\/&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1682074062672000&amp;usg=AOvVaw0nIUUxlZKb1v1uLifYROeJ\">Moving Beyond Mimicry in Artificial Intelligence<\/a>\u00a0&#8212;\u00a0Rapha\u00ebl Milli\u00e8re.<br \/>\n4.\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.wired.com\/story\/dalle-art-curation-artificial-intelligence\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/www.wired.com\/story\/dalle-art-curation-artificial-intelligence\/&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1682074062672000&amp;usg=AOvVaw3i_lwVX1n30HQOC4KWOWkY\">AI Art Is Challenging the Boundaries of Curation<\/a>\u00a0&#8212;\u00a0Rapha\u00ebl Milli\u00e8re.<br \/>\n5.\u00a0The Vector Grounding Problem &#8212;\u00a0Dimitri Coelho Mollo and Rapha\u00ebl Milli\u00e8re.<br \/>\n6.\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/bravenewpodcast.com\/episodes\/2023\/03\/23\/episode-58-sam-bowman-on-chatgpt-controlling-ai\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/bravenewpodcast.com\/episodes\/2023\/03\/23\/episode-58-sam-bowman-on-chatgpt-controlling-ai\/&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1682074062672000&amp;usg=AOvVaw17dFf8eQAmBPJSN6Phvl1S\">Sam Bowman on ChatGPT &amp; Controlling AI<\/a>\u00a0&#8212; Episode 58 of Brave New World.<br \/>\n7.\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/bravenewpodcast.com\/episodes\/2023\/04\/06\/episode-59-paulo-kaiser-on-assimilating-chatgpt\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/bravenewpodcast.com\/episodes\/2023\/04\/06\/episode-59-paulo-kaiser-on-assimilating-chatgpt\/&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1682074062673000&amp;usg=AOvVaw0kib2io_mHA7Rv1hGlQKH5\">Paulo Kaiser on Assimilating ChatGPT<\/a>\u00a0&#8212; Episode 59 of Brave New World.<br \/>\n8.\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/bravenewpodcast.com\/episodes\/2021\/03\/04\/episode-7-the-nature-of-intelligence\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/bravenewpodcast.com\/episodes\/2021\/03\/04\/episode-7-the-nature-of-intelligence\/&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1682074062673000&amp;usg=AOvVaw1C4BYWW2D3D2FmvH20FgeW\">The Nature of Intelligence<\/a>\u00a0&#8212; Episode 7 of Brave New World (w Yann LeCun).<br \/>\n9.\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2023\/03\/08\/opinion\/noam-chomsky-chatgpt-ai.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2023\/03\/08\/opinion\/noam-chomsky-chatgpt-ai.html&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1682074062673000&amp;usg=AOvVaw2xRAmhMrGEtelzVsmu7kUA\">The False Promise of ChatGPT<\/a>\u00a0&#8212; Noam Chomsky, Ian Roberts and\u00a0Jeffrey Watumull.<br \/>\n10.\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.incompleteideas.net\/IncIdeas\/BitterLesson.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=http:\/\/www.incompleteideas.net\/IncIdeas\/BitterLesson.html&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1682074062673000&amp;usg=AOvVaw37pE2T033OiocAJ4t-y9gq\">The Bitter Lesson<\/a>\u00a0&#8212; Rich Sutton.<br \/>\n11.\u00a0<i><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Bullshit-Harry-G-Frankfurt-ebook\/dp\/B001EQ4OJW\/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1Z3AUYWWKI3V7&amp;keywords=harry+frankfurt&amp;qid=1681947971&amp;sprefix=harry+frankfurt%2Caps%2C296&amp;sr=8-1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Bullshit-Harry-G-Frankfurt-ebook\/dp\/B001EQ4OJW\/ref%3Dsr_1_1?crid%3D1Z3AUYWWKI3V7%26keywords%3Dharry%2Bfrankfurt%26qid%3D1681947971%26sprefix%3Dharry%2Bfrankfurt%252Caps%252C296%26sr%3D8-1&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1682074062673000&amp;usg=AOvVaw1pqncneRhVsGxyVZIESuBv\">On Bullshit<\/a><\/i>\u00a0&#8212; Harry Frankfurt.<br \/>\n12.\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/archive.is\/20230217062226\/https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2023\/02\/16\/technology\/bing-chatbot-transcript.html#selection-375.0-375.37\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/archive.is\/20230217062226\/https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2023\/02\/16\/technology\/bing-chatbot-transcript.html%23selection-375.0-375.37&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1682074062673000&amp;usg=AOvVaw1aWBv8kxpEaGmGzpEYcCB1\">Bing\u2019s A.I. Chat: \u2018I Want to Be Alive<\/a>\u00a0&#8212; Kevin Roose.<br \/>\n13.\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/arxiv.org\/abs\/2212.01681\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/arxiv.org\/abs\/2212.01681&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1682074062673000&amp;usg=AOvVaw0q523GgFQYsD91mKGBlmbR\">Language Models as Agent Models<\/a>\u00a0&#8212; Jacob Andreas.<\/p>\n<p>Check out\u00a0<b><a href=\"https:\/\/vasantdhar.substack.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/vasantdhar.substack.com\/&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1682074062673000&amp;usg=AOvVaw1No8c3V0mvL5O4UASq_D5G\"><span class=\"il\">Vasant<\/span>\u00a0Dhar\u2019s newsletter<\/a><\/b>\u00a0on Substack. 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